Frames worth building on

Somebody else's frame, your dream build.

Most people who want a custom build get stuck at the very first step: which frame? So I keep an eye on Craigslist and Marketplace around the Pacific Northwest and post what I find. Including the ones I'd skip, and why. A page that only ever says "great deal" isn't much use to anybody.

How this works. I'm not selling these and I don't get a cut. They're other people's listings, and I haven't had hands on any of them, so treat my notes as a starting point and not an inspection. If one looks right, buy it yourself and bring it to me. Good ones go fast, so the date is on every card. Photos belong to the sellers and appear here next to a link back to the original listing.
  • Available
    Black Orbea Terra carbon frame and fork with a Rotor crankset fitted and a handlebar and stem on the fork, standing on a wood floor, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Black Orbea Terra carbon frame and fork with a Rotor crankset fitted and a handlebar and stem on the fork, standing on a wood floor, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 10. Black Orbea Terra carbon frame and fork with a Rotor crankset fitted and a handlebar and stem on the fork, standing on a wood floor, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 10. Black Orbea Terra carbon frame and fork with a Rotor crankset fitted and a handlebar and stem on the fork, standing on a wood floor, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 10. Black Orbea Terra carbon frame and fork with a Rotor crankset fitted and a handlebar and stem on the fork, standing on a wood floor, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 5 of 10. Black Orbea Terra carbon frame and fork with a Rotor crankset fitted and a handlebar and stem on the fork, standing on a wood floor, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 6 of 10. Black Orbea Terra carbon frame and fork with a Rotor crankset fitted and a handlebar and stem on the fork, standing on a wood floor, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 7 of 10. Black Orbea Terra carbon frame and fork with a Rotor crankset fitted and a handlebar and stem on the fork, standing on a wood floor, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 8 of 10. Black Orbea Terra carbon frame and fork with a Rotor crankset fitted and a handlebar and stem on the fork, standing on a wood floor, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 9 of 10. Black Orbea Terra carbon frame and fork with a Rotor crankset fitted and a handlebar and stem on the fork, standing on a wood floor, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 10 of 10.
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    FB Marketplace · Portland, OR ·

    Orbea Terra Carbon Frameset

    Asking
    $600 (current model $2,204)
    Size
    M
    Material
    Carbon
    Brakes
    Disc. A thru-axle is visible in the fork in the photos
    Routing
    For Di2 or SRAM electronic, per the seller
    Mileage
    Under 400 miles on the frame and rings, per the seller
    Includes
    Frame, fork, headset, bottom bracket, Rotor 172.5 crankset with 52/36 round rings. The description says the stem, bars and shifters are not included, though the title lists bars and stem
    Condition
    Used, good. One scratch on the top tube, pictured, per the seller

    My take Carbon Terra frameset in a medium, right here in Portland, for $600 with the headset, the bottom bracket and a Rotor crank with 52/36 rings already in it. He says it has under 400 miles on the frame and rings and one scratch on the top tube, and he photographed that scratch. He built it for fun and then pulled the parts for another bike.. which is the boring kind of reason to sell a frame, and boring is what you want. Ten photos, a few with a tape measure on the frame so you can check sizing yourself.

    Read the ad twice The title says it comes with the seatpost, bars and stem. The description says the stem and bars are only on there to hold the fork in and don't come with it, and doesn't mention a seatpost. Ask which one is true before you count any of it as value. He also says it's set up for Di2 or SRAM electronic, so plan an electronic group for it, not mechanical.

    The math He doesn't say what year it is. The current Terra OMR frameset is $2,204 at Contender (sold out there), and that box has the fork, headset, stem, seatpost and axles. This one has the fork, headset and bottom bracket plus a crank, so it's roughly a wash. $600 is 73% under the current model, and if this is an older generation that number flatters it some. Still a really good price for a carbon gravel frame with no damage claimed. It's been up since May without a price drop, so I'd offer $500 and happily pay $600.

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  • Available
    Dark green Ritchey Logic steel road bike built with a Shimano Ultegra crank and black wheels, leaning on a white wall, from the seller's Craigslist listing.

    Craigslist · Seattle, WA ·

    Ritchey Road Logic Disc Frameset (2024)

    Asking
    $1,200 (OBO, MSRP $1,979)
    Size
    55
    Year
    2024, built up January 2025, per the seller
    Material
    Steel, carbon fork
    Brakes
    Disc, flat mount, thru-axle
    Tires
    Ritchey says 30mm, the seller says 32mm plus
    Mileage
    Under 2,000 miles, per the seller
    Includes
    Frame, fork, headset
    Condition
    Excellent, per the seller

    My take A 2024 Ritchey Road Logic disc, 55cm, up in Seattle for $1,200 OBO. Steel, flat mount, thru axles, and none of the aero or internal cable stuff.. a modern road bike that still looks like a road bike. He bought it new, built it in January '25, says under 2,000 miles, never ridden in the rain, never dropped. And he's selling because a friend who builds frames is retiring and he wants a custom one before that door closes. Hard to think of a better reason to let a nice frame go.

    The math Ritchey's frameset is $1,979 at retail, with the fork and headset, which is exactly what he's selling. $1,200 is 39% under that, right in the 35 to 50% band for a frame coming up on two years old in this kind of shape. Some shops have it on sale at $1,682, and he's still 29% under that. It's OBO, so I'd open at $1,050 and be happy anywhere up to his number.

    What to check There's one photo, and it's the built bike with parts he'll only sell for extra (he hasn't priced em yet). He offers to post more, so ask for frame shots before you drive. On tyres, go by Ritchey, not the seller. They say 30mm, he says 32 plus. Plan on 30s. Fit wise, the photo is at 74.5cm saddle height and he's 5'9" with longish legs.

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  • Available
    Celeste and black Bianchi Oltre XR4 frame and fork with the black Vision cockpit fitted, on a blue work stand with wheels in, from the seller's Craigslist listing. Celeste and black Bianchi Oltre XR4 frame and fork with the black Vision cockpit fitted, on a blue work stand with wheels in, from the seller's Craigslist listing. Photo 2 of 15. Celeste and black Bianchi Oltre XR4 frame and fork with the black Vision cockpit fitted, on a blue work stand with wheels in, from the seller's Craigslist listing. Photo 3 of 15. Celeste and black Bianchi Oltre XR4 frame and fork with the black Vision cockpit fitted, on a blue work stand with wheels in, from the seller's Craigslist listing. Photo 4 of 15. Celeste and black Bianchi Oltre XR4 frame and fork with the black Vision cockpit fitted, on a blue work stand with wheels in, from the seller's Craigslist listing. Photo 5 of 15. Celeste and black Bianchi Oltre XR4 frame and fork with the black Vision cockpit fitted, on a blue work stand with wheels in, from the seller's Craigslist listing. Photo 6 of 15. Celeste and black Bianchi Oltre XR4 frame and fork with the black Vision cockpit fitted, on a blue work stand with wheels in, from the seller's Craigslist listing. Photo 7 of 15. Celeste and black Bianchi Oltre XR4 frame and fork with the black Vision cockpit fitted, on a blue work stand with wheels in, from the seller's Craigslist listing. Photo 8 of 15. Celeste and black Bianchi Oltre XR4 frame and fork with the black Vision cockpit fitted, on a blue work stand with wheels in, from the seller's Craigslist listing. Photo 9 of 15. Celeste and black Bianchi Oltre XR4 frame and fork with the black Vision cockpit fitted, on a blue work stand with wheels in, from the seller's Craigslist listing. Photo 10 of 15. Celeste and black Bianchi Oltre XR4 frame and fork with the black Vision cockpit fitted, on a blue work stand with wheels in, from the seller's Craigslist listing. Photo 11 of 15. Celeste and black Bianchi Oltre XR4 frame and fork with the black Vision cockpit fitted, on a blue work stand with wheels in, from the seller's Craigslist listing. Photo 12 of 15. Celeste and black Bianchi Oltre XR4 frame and fork with the black Vision cockpit fitted, on a blue work stand with wheels in, from the seller's Craigslist listing. Photo 13 of 15. Celeste and black Bianchi Oltre XR4 frame and fork with the black Vision cockpit fitted, on a blue work stand with wheels in, from the seller's Craigslist listing. Photo 14 of 15. Celeste and black Bianchi Oltre XR4 frame and fork with the black Vision cockpit fitted, on a blue work stand with wheels in, from the seller's Craigslist listing. Photo 15 of 15.
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    Craigslist · Gresham, OR ·

    Bianchi Oltre XR4 Disc Frameset

    Asking
    $1,600 (MSRP $6,000)
    Size
    57 x 57, seat tube 52cm center to top, per the seller
    Head tube
    155mm, per the seller
    Material
    Carbon, Countervail
    Brakes
    Disc, thru-axle
    Bottom bracket
    BB386, new, plus spare Shimano and Campy bottom brackets
    Includes
    Frame, fork, Vision ACR cockpit, Bianchi seatpost, zero-setback seatpost
    Condition
    "Pristine", per the seller

    My take Celeste Oltre XR4 disc frameset, a 57, down in Gresham for $1,600. And the seller is one of us.. two Colnagos, two Cipollinis, and a whole paragraph about top tube symmetry before he gets to the bike. The photos back it up. Fifteen of em, the frame and fork on a work stand from just about every angle (wheels in for some), plus the Vision cockpit and the seatpost with Bianchi's quality control report. That's the listing you want to buy from.

    The math Bianchi's 2023 XR4 disc frameset listed at $6,000, and that box came with the Vision bar and the seatpost. His $1,600 covers the ACR cockpit, the Bianchi post, a second zero-setback post and a new BB386 bottom bracket with spare Shimano and Campy ones thrown in, so it compares pretty much straight across. That's 73% under list. He doesn't say what year it is, but 99spokes has the 2019 at $5,900, so the year barely moves the number. Way past the 35 to 50% band either way. He also says it's listed at $2,200 on eBay. I'd pay the $1,600 and not haggle much.

    What to check The wheels in the photos are the Lightweights he had on it, and nothing in the post says they come with it, so assume they don't. Then fit. He calls it 57 x 57 but gives a 52cm seat tube center to top and a 155mm head tube, and he's 5'10" with a 32 inch inseam at a 720mm saddle height. Don't go by the number on the sticker, put the stack and reach next to your current bike. And ask what width and length the cockpit is, because on an aero frame with everything routed inside, swapping it is a real job.

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  • Available
    Dark blue Cervélo Áspero frame and fork with a stem and seatpost fitted and purple axles, leaning against a white brick wall, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Dark blue Cervélo Áspero frame and fork with a stem and seatpost fitted and purple axles, leaning against a white brick wall, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 9. Dark blue Cervélo Áspero frame and fork with a stem and seatpost fitted and purple axles, leaning against a white brick wall, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 9. Dark blue Cervélo Áspero frame and fork with a stem and seatpost fitted and purple axles, leaning against a white brick wall, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 9. Dark blue Cervélo Áspero frame and fork with a stem and seatpost fitted and purple axles, leaning against a white brick wall, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 5 of 9. Dark blue Cervélo Áspero frame and fork with a stem and seatpost fitted and purple axles, leaning against a white brick wall, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 6 of 9. Dark blue Cervélo Áspero frame and fork with a stem and seatpost fitted and purple axles, leaning against a white brick wall, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 7 of 9. Dark blue Cervélo Áspero frame and fork with a stem and seatpost fitted and purple axles, leaning against a white brick wall, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 8 of 9. Dark blue Cervélo Áspero frame and fork with a stem and seatpost fitted and purple axles, leaning against a white brick wall, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 9 of 9.
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    FB Marketplace · Bothell, WA ·

    Cervélo Áspero Frameset (2025)

    Asking
    $1,295 (was $1,400, MSRP $2,700)
    Size
    58
    Year
    2025, per the seller
    Colour
    Woodsmoke
    Material
    Carbon
    Brakes
    Disc
    Mileage
    About 1,000 miles, per the seller
    Includes
    Frame, fork, stock seatpost, saddle, headset, bottom bracket, axles and stem. Optional extras: CeramicSpeed bottom bracket $250, OmniRacer carbon seatpost $90, Chris King/Robert Axle Project axles $100
    Condition
    Used, good. Rub marks inside the chainstays and fork from tyre rub in the mud, "nothing structural", per the seller

    My take A 2025 Áspero with about a thousand miles on it, and he's selling because he went to a frame with more tyre clearance. That's the good kind of reason to sell a frame.. nothing wrong with it, it just isn't the bike for what he's doing next. He relisted it at $1,400, down from $1,600, and he's since come down again to $1,295. The stock seatpost, stem, headset, bottom bracket, axles and saddle come with it. Up in Bothell, so an easy pickup from anywhere around Seattle.

    Go look at the rub marks The bike's apart now, and the new photos show the bare frame and fork from a few angles. He also says there are rub marks inside the chainstays and the fork from tyre rub in the mud, and calls them nothing structural. The last three photos are close-ups of those spots. See them in person before any money moves. Scuffed paint is cosmetic. If the rub has gone into the carbon itself, that's a different conversation, and on a frame this new I'd walk. The seatpost in the photos is the OmniRacer carbon one, which is a $90 extra. The CeramicSpeed bottom bracket ($250) and the Chris King/Robert Axle Project axles ($100) are extras too. You don't need any of em.

    The math Mike's Bikes lists the Áspero frameset at $2,699.99 new, on sale for $2,429.95 and sold out in most sizes, and that box has the seatpost, headset and bottom bracket in it. His $1,295 covers all of that plus a stem, so it compares straight across: 52% under list and 47% under the sale price, for a frame about a year old. That's well past the usual 20 to 30% for one this new, and the rub marks are probably part of why. If they're just scuffs, I'd pay his number. If they're deeper than he says, I wouldn't buy it at any price.

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  • I'd pass
    Mark Nobilette steel frame in metallic dark grey with a black carbon fork, on a white background, from Bike Recyclery's Marketplace listing. Mark Nobilette steel frame in metallic dark grey with a black carbon fork, on a white background, from Bike Recyclery's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 10. Mark Nobilette steel frame in metallic dark grey with a black carbon fork, on a white background, from Bike Recyclery's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 10. Mark Nobilette steel frame in metallic dark grey with a black carbon fork, on a white background, from Bike Recyclery's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 10. Mark Nobilette steel frame in metallic dark grey with a black carbon fork, on a white background, from Bike Recyclery's Marketplace listing. Photo 5 of 10. Mark Nobilette steel frame in metallic dark grey with a black carbon fork, on a white background, from Bike Recyclery's Marketplace listing. Photo 6 of 10. Mark Nobilette steel frame in metallic dark grey with a black carbon fork, on a white background, from Bike Recyclery's Marketplace listing. Photo 7 of 10. Mark Nobilette steel frame in metallic dark grey with a black carbon fork, on a white background, from Bike Recyclery's Marketplace listing. Photo 8 of 10. Mark Nobilette steel frame in metallic dark grey with a black carbon fork, on a white background, from Bike Recyclery's Marketplace listing. Photo 9 of 10. Mark Nobilette steel frame in metallic dark grey with a black carbon fork, on a white background, from Bike Recyclery's Marketplace listing. Photo 10 of 10.
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    FB Marketplace · Portland, OR

    Nobilette Model A Fillet Brazed Frameset

    Asking
    $1,000 (was $1,200)
    Size
    55cm top tube, 53.5cm seat tube c-t
    Geometry
    167mm head tube, 403mm chainstays
    Material
    Fillet brazed oversized steel, metallic dark grey
    Fork
    Reynolds Ouzo Pro carbon, long steerer
    Brakes
    Rim. Brake bridge, no disc mounts
    Standards
    130mm rear spacing, Henry James stainless dropouts
    Condition
    Used, near mint per the seller
    Seller
    Bike Recyclery, Portland

    My take This is a really pretty frame. Fillet brazed steel by Mark Nobilette, who has been building since 1973, and the Model A is his version with the fastback seat stays. Stainless Henry James dropouts, a Reynolds Ouzo Pro carbon fork with the steerer still long, and the shop calls it near mint with tiny marks behind the chainrings and by the dropouts. There's a close-up of nearly every joint, so you can judge the brazing yourself instead of taking anyone's word for it. And it's at Bike Recyclery here in town, so you can go put your hands on it.

    Why it's a pass Rim brake. There's a brake bridge between the seat stays, no disc mounts anywhere, and the rear is 130mm, which is road rim spacing. Same story as every rim frame on this page: you can't buy a current high end groupset for it. Red and Force AXS are disc only, and Dura-Ace and Ultegra went disc only at 12 speed. So the build is used 11 speed and rim wheels, on a market that shrinks every year.

    The math, and who it's for Nobilette's own pricing page has the Model A at $2,795 for the frame alone, fork extra. This is $1,000 with a carbon fork, so about 64% under the frame by itself. That's a good number for a frame like this. Two things first. The description still says $1,200 cash while the listing says $1,000, so confirm which one you're paying. And it's custom, built around somebody else: 55 top tube, 53.5 seat tube, 167 head tube. Hold those up against the bike you ride now, because custom fit doesn't transfer. If you've got a rim group in a box and those numbers work for you, I'd pay the $1,000 and happily build it.. if you're picturing a new 12 speed build, no price fixes that.

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  • Available
    Black Cervélo Caledonia-5 frameset with the bar and stem fitted, leaning against a wall on a wood floor, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Black Cervélo Caledonia-5 frameset with the bar and stem fitted, leaning against a wall on a wood floor, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 7. Black Cervélo Caledonia-5 frameset with the bar and stem fitted, leaning against a wall on a wood floor, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 7. Black Cervélo Caledonia-5 frameset with the bar and stem fitted, leaning against a wall on a wood floor, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 7. Black Cervélo Caledonia-5 frameset with the bar and stem fitted, leaning against a wall on a wood floor, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 5 of 7. Black Cervélo Caledonia-5 frameset with the bar and stem fitted, leaning against a wall on a wood floor, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 6 of 7. Black Cervélo Caledonia-5 frameset with the bar and stem fitted, leaning against a wall on a wood floor, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 7 of 7.
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    FB Marketplace · Seattle, WA ·

    Cervélo Caledonia-5 Frameset

    Asking
    $1,600 (was $1,800, MSRP $5,000)
    Size
    56cm
    Type
    Carbon disc endurance road frameset
    Brakes
    Disc. No rim brake mounts anywhere, and a thru-axle sits in the rear dropout in the photos
    Includes
    Frame, fork, 120mm carbon stem, 42cm Cervélo bar, stock and zero offset seatposts, spare spacers and frame hardware, Kogel ceramic DUB bottom bracket
    Condition
    Used, like new per the seller

    My take The Caledonia-5 is Cervélo's endurance road bike, the one you'd actually want for a long day on bad pavement. New it's $5,000 as a frameset with the bar, stem and post, and this one has all of that plus a second post and a Kogel BB, for $1,600. That's 68% under new. He's written a short ad but a careful one.. he tells you exactly what's in the box and that everything else in the photos stays with him.

    Why it's still sitting there It's been up since April and he's only come down $200 in that time. I don't think anything's wrong with it. A 56 frameset with a 120 stem on it is a narrow buyer and most people scrolling want a whole bike. Buuut ask what year it is, since the ad doesn't say, and ask how much steerer is left above the stem. Look it over in daylight too, "like new" is his word and the photos are all indoors.

    What I'd pay I'd offer $1,400 and happily pay the $1,600. That long up gives you room to ask. The 120 stem and 42 bar are his fit, so don't count them as value until you know they're yours. Cervélo lists the 56 at 580 stack and 387 reach, so check that against your current bike before you drive up.

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  • Available
    Trek Checkpoint SLR frame and fork in matte black, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Trek Checkpoint SLR frame and fork in matte black, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 7. Trek Checkpoint SLR frame and fork in matte black, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 7. Trek Checkpoint SLR frame and fork in matte black, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 7. Trek Checkpoint SLR frame and fork in matte black, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 5 of 7. Trek Checkpoint SLR frame and fork in matte black, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 6 of 7. Trek Checkpoint SLR frame and fork in matte black, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 7 of 7.
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    FB Marketplace · Seattle, WA ·

    Trek Checkpoint SLR Frameset

    Asking
    $1,800 (MSRP $2,899)
    Size
    54cm. Trek's range is 5'6" to 5'9"
    Material
    700 Series OCLV carbon
    Includes
    Fork, headset, matching Trek frame bag
    Condition
    New, never built

    My take Never built. He bought it a few years ago for a bikepacking build that didn't happen, and it's been waiting ever since. SLR is the top carbon version of the Checkpoint, and Trek doesn't sell it new anymore. Comes with the fork, the headset and a matching Trek frame bag.

    Ask about the seatmast cap The SLR uses Trek's seatmast instead of a regular seatpost, so without the matching seatmast cap there's nowhere to put a saddle. The listing mentions the headset and the bag but not the cap. It's a Trek-only part.. ask before you drive over.

    What I'd pay New was $2,899 for the frameset and he's asking $1,800, which is 38% under. Fair for a frame that's never been ridden but has been sitting a few years. Buuut Wheel & Sprocket's outlet was clearing new 54cm SLR frames for $1,100 (no fork), and it's been up since June without a price drop. Those outlet frames are sold out now, so this is still the one you can actually buy. I'd open at $1,400 and be happy anywhere near $1,500.

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  • Available
    Unpainted black carbon 3T frame and fork standing in front of the 3T cardboard box they came in, with a wrapped seatpost and two sealed bags of hardware on the boards in front, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Unpainted black carbon 3T frame and fork standing in front of the 3T cardboard box they came in, with a wrapped seatpost and two sealed bags of hardware on the boards in front, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 4. Unpainted black carbon 3T frame and fork standing in front of the 3T cardboard box they came in, with a wrapped seatpost and two sealed bags of hardware on the boards in front, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 4. Unpainted black carbon 3T frame and fork standing in front of the 3T cardboard box they came in, with a wrapped seatpost and two sealed bags of hardware on the boards in front, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 4.
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    FB Marketplace · Gig Harbor, WA ·

    3T Exploro RaceMax

    Asking
    $1,000 (was $1,200, MSRP $3,200)
    Size
    54cm, per the seller. The factory sticker under the bottom bracket in photo four reads B-540-UD
    Material
    Carbon frame and fork, unpainted
    Brakes
    Disc. Rear thru-axle dropout with a replaceable hanger is visible in photo three. 3T's launch spec for the RaceMax was direct mount brakes around a 160mm rotor
    Includes
    Frame, fork, seatpost, Cane Creek headset and all hardware, per the seller
    Finish
    Raw. Seller calls it ready to paint, and says you can custom paint it or run it raw
    Condition
    New, never built. Protective plugs and factory tape are still on the frame in photos one and three
    Seller
    On Facebook since 2007, two ratings

    My take A 3T Exploro RaceMax, still in its box, for a thousand dollars. That's the whole pitch and I read the ad twice. The RaceMax is 3T's aero gravel frame, and this one is raw carbon with no paint on it anywhere. He says he bought it in 2021 for a build that never happened because mountain biking took over. Photo one is the frame and fork propped in front of the 3T box they came in, with the seatpost still wrapped and a sealed 3T bag of small parts sitting next to it. Photo three still has the protective plugs in the frame. Unbuilt carbon is a good place to start from. Nobody has overtightened anything on it yet, and with no paint you can look at the whole frame instead of a coat of colour.

    The finish is the question, not the frame He calls it ready to paint, and raw is how it looks in every photo. So the thing to settle before you drive to Gig Harbor is whether it left 3T like that or whether somebody took the paint off it. The photos lean his way. Photo four is the underside of the bottom bracket with the factory QR label and a serial sticker still stuck to it reading B-540-UD, and that 540 lines up with the 54cm he's advertising. People who strip frames don't usually leave the stickers on. Ask him for a shot of the head tube and the non drive side anyway. Four photos isn't many, and none of them show the frame whole from that side.

    The math, and why it's still sitting there 3T launched the Exploro RaceMax frameset at $3,200, quoted for frame and fork. They don't sell it any more, and the cheapest Racemax frameset on their US site today is the Racemax 2 Italia at $5,154. So $1,000 is about 69% under what this frame cost new, on a frame nobody has ridden, and the Cane Creek headset and the seatpost are on top of that. Up since July with $200 already off it, which is worth saying out loud. Raw unpainted frames are a taste, 54 is one size, and 3T is a name a lot of people have never typed into a search bar. That's the reason it's still there. I'd pay the $1,000. If you want to try, offer $875 and be ready to hear no.. at this number he has every reason to wait. Ask whether the thru axles are in those bags while you're at it, because that one's a real question and the answer changes your first parts order.

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  • Available
    Matte black Cannondale SuperSix EVO Hi-MOD frame and fork with a silver fade on the top tube, laid on bubble wrap, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Matte black Cannondale SuperSix EVO Hi-MOD frame and fork with a silver fade on the top tube, laid on bubble wrap, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 5. Matte black Cannondale SuperSix EVO Hi-MOD frame and fork with a silver fade on the top tube, laid on bubble wrap, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 5. Matte black Cannondale SuperSix EVO Hi-MOD frame and fork with a silver fade on the top tube, laid on bubble wrap, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 5. Matte black Cannondale SuperSix EVO Hi-MOD frame and fork with a silver fade on the top tube, laid on bubble wrap, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 5 of 5.
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    FB Marketplace · Seattle, WA ·

    Cannondale SuperSix EVO Hi-MOD Frameset

    Asking
    $2,000 (was $2,400, MSRP $4,500)
    Size
    58cm. There's a 58 size sticker on the seat tube in photo three
    Year
    2024, per the seller
    Material
    Carbon fibre
    Includes
    Frame, fork, seatpost, thru axles, Conceal C1 stem (120mm, -6 degree), spacers, a computer mount, a Garmin Varia mount and a SRAM DUB bottom bracket, per the listing
    Mileage
    About 1,000 miles, per the seller
    Condition
    Used, like new. No scratches or marks, per the seller

    My take This is the ad you want to find. He says what it is, how far it's gone, why he's selling it (he's 6'4" and this is a touch small for him), and then he itemises what comes with the frameset and what costs extra, instead of letting the photos do the lying. 24 ratings and on here since 2009. The frame is the Hi-MOD, which is the light carbon layup rather than the shop-floor one, and it's the generation with the threaded bottom bracket and UDH. Threaded BB on a race frame is a small quiet gift to whoever owns it in five years.

    What's in the box, and what isn't Two grand gets frame, fork, seatpost, the axles, the Conceal stem and a DUB bottom bracket. The Enve aero bar on it in photo five is not in that number, it's $300 on top, and the Zipp 404s and the saddle are their own prices again. So don't do the arithmetic off the picture. The other thing worth a message: the fork steerer in photo two is long and still wearing its factory label. Could be uncut, could just be a generous cut. Ask him what it actually measures, because on a 58 with a tall rider that's the difference between the fit working and not.

    The math, and what I'd pay The 2024 Hi-MOD frameset listed at $4,500 and shops are asking closer to $5,000 for the same thing today. He's at $2,000, so that's about 56% under, on a two year old frame with a thousand miles on it and no damage claimed. The going rate for a frame that age is 35 to 50% under, so he's already below it, and he's come down $400 since it went up. I'd pay his number and not feel clever about it. If you want to try, $1,850 and mean it. Two things to do before you drive up: get him to send a photo of the underside of the down tube and the inside of the chainstays in daylight, and confirm that 58, because he never types the size anywhere in the ad.

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    Titanium Moots Routt 45 built up as a complete bike with green Moots graphics, a black carbon fork and DT Swiss wheels, leaning against a wooden fence, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Titanium Moots Routt 45 built up as a complete bike with green Moots graphics, a black carbon fork and DT Swiss wheels, leaning against a wooden fence, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 8. Titanium Moots Routt 45 built up as a complete bike with green Moots graphics, a black carbon fork and DT Swiss wheels, leaning against a wooden fence, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 8. Titanium Moots Routt 45 built up as a complete bike with green Moots graphics, a black carbon fork and DT Swiss wheels, leaning against a wooden fence, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 8. Titanium Moots Routt 45 built up as a complete bike with green Moots graphics, a black carbon fork and DT Swiss wheels, leaning against a wooden fence, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 5 of 8. Titanium Moots Routt 45 built up as a complete bike with green Moots graphics, a black carbon fork and DT Swiss wheels, leaning against a wooden fence, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 6 of 8. Titanium Moots Routt 45 built up as a complete bike with green Moots graphics, a black carbon fork and DT Swiss wheels, leaning against a wooden fence, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 7 of 8. Titanium Moots Routt 45 built up as a complete bike with green Moots graphics, a black carbon fork and DT Swiss wheels, leaning against a wooden fence, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 8 of 8.
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    FB Marketplace · Portland, OR ·

    Moots Routt 45 UDH

    Asking
    $3,999 (frameset only. The headline $4,800 on the ad is the complete bike, MSRP $5,999)
    Size
    52 / Medium, per the seller
    Material
    Titanium frame, Moots Gravel 47R carbon fork
    Brakes
    Flat mount disc. 142x12 rear on a 3D printed dropout with a UDH hanger, per the seller
    Bottom bracket
    68mm English threaded, per the seller
    Headset
    Chris King i7, per the seller. A King cup is visible at the fork crown in photo four
    Mounts
    Third bottle mount, fender mounts with lower eyelets, per the seller
    Finish
    Seller calls it anodized Emerald Mountain Green. In the photos the frame reads as raw titanium with green Moots graphics on it
    Condition
    Used, like new. Very lightly used, per the seller

    My take A Moots, in Portland, that you can go and put your hands on. Titanium gravel frames get talked about a lot and sold used around here almost never, and this is the current one with the UDH hanger, the threaded bottom bracket and the 3D printed rear dropout. Clearance for a 45 up to 50 depending on who you ask, three bottle mounts, fender eyelets. It is about as do-everything as a drop bar frame gets without becoming a tourer. The ad is the good kind too. He lists every part on the bike and then tells you outright that the Enve cockpit in the photos doesn't come with it. Sellers who volunteer that are usually straight about the rest.

    You're buying a frame, not the bike in the pictures Every photo is the complete bike, built with Rival AXS on DT Swiss wheels. $3,999 buys the frame and the fork. He'll sell it built for $4,800 if that's what you want, but that's a different conversation. So pin down what actually lands in the box. The Chris King headset, the thru axles and the 3D printed dropout hardware and UDH hanger are all listed as parts of the bike, not explicitly as parts of the frameset, and on a Moots the King headset alone is real money. Ask, get it in writing, and it changes what the $3,999 means.

    The math, and it's closer than it looks Moots list the Routt 45 at $5,999, so at $3,999 he's 33% under. Sounds great. Buuut they're running $1,000 off right now, so a brand new one is $4,999 today, and against that real number he's only 20% under. That's the bottom edge of fair for a frame that's barely a year old, not a steal. Which is the whole decision. A thousand more gets you new, in your size, with a warranty and the anodizing spec'd how you want it. His frame is a 52 and a 52 is what you get. If you're a medium and you want a Moots now instead of waiting on Steamboat Springs, this is a fair way to do it, and I'd open at $3,400 and settle somewhere in the middle. If you're not a 52, none of the above matters.

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    Red lugged steel Masi track frame and matching fork on a grey studio backdrop, MASI in yellow on the down tube and Italian tricolour bands on the seat tube, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Red lugged steel Masi track frame and matching fork on a grey studio backdrop, MASI in yellow on the down tube and Italian tricolour bands on the seat tube, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 10. Red lugged steel Masi track frame and matching fork on a grey studio backdrop, MASI in yellow on the down tube and Italian tricolour bands on the seat tube, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 10. Red lugged steel Masi track frame and matching fork on a grey studio backdrop, MASI in yellow on the down tube and Italian tricolour bands on the seat tube, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 10. Red lugged steel Masi track frame and matching fork on a grey studio backdrop, MASI in yellow on the down tube and Italian tricolour bands on the seat tube, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 5 of 10. Red lugged steel Masi track frame and matching fork on a grey studio backdrop, MASI in yellow on the down tube and Italian tricolour bands on the seat tube, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 6 of 10. Red lugged steel Masi track frame and matching fork on a grey studio backdrop, MASI in yellow on the down tube and Italian tricolour bands on the seat tube, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 7 of 10. Red lugged steel Masi track frame and matching fork on a grey studio backdrop, MASI in yellow on the down tube and Italian tricolour bands on the seat tube, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 8 of 10. Red lugged steel Masi track frame and matching fork on a grey studio backdrop, MASI in yellow on the down tube and Italian tricolour bands on the seat tube, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 9 of 10. Red lugged steel Masi track frame and matching fork on a grey studio backdrop, MASI in yellow on the down tube and Italian tricolour bands on the seat tube, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 10 of 10.
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    FB Marketplace · Portland, OR ·

    Masi California Pista

    Asking
    $1,400 (was $1,500)
    Size
    53cm seat tube, 53.5cm top tube, both centre to centre, per the seller
    Material
    Lugged steel
    Year
    1973 to 74, per the seller, from serial MC055
    Type
    Track / fixed gear
    Brakes
    None. No drilling in the fork crown and no brake bridge in the photos
    Includes
    Frame and matching fork
    Condition
    Used, good. Chips at the head tube and seat lug, bare metal in the dropouts
    Seller
    151 ratings on Marketplace, on Facebook since 2008

    My take This isn't a build base, it's a piece of history you can also ride, and I'm putting it up because I'd want to know it existed. Masi California was the San Diego shop Faliero Masi ran in the mid seventies. The seller says this one is serial MC055, 1973 or 74, with Mario Confente doing the framebuilding and Brian Baylis prepping the tubing. Those two names get written about more than almost anyone in American framebuilding, and they overlapped in that shop for a short window. Track frame, so no brakes, and none of the disc talk that applies to everything else on this page. Braking on a fixie goes through the drivetrain. Photo six is the rear ends, rear facing, paint worn to bare steel where the axle has sat. Photo eight is the bottom bracket shell with the Masi cut out M in it. The fork matches.

    The serial is the whole price Everything he's asking rests on MC055 and the era it puts this in, and there's no photo of the serial anywhere in the set. Photo eight does show stamped characters on the shell, but they're under paint and I can't read them. So.. ask him to shoot the stamp clean before you drive anywhere. He has 151 ratings, he's been on here since 2008, and he writes like someone who knows exactly what he's holding, which is reassuring and still isn't the same as seeing the number.

    What you're getting into, and what I'd pay Go in knowing what a fifty year old Italian track frame is. One inch threaded steerer, Italian threaded bottom bracket, and rear spacing you measure rather than assume. That last one is a real question on a frame this old rather than a silly one, and it decides which hub you can use. None of it is a problem. It just means the parts hunt is vintage track stuff and not something you order on a Tuesday. The paint is honest. Chips at the head tube edges, wear through the lugs, bare metal in the dropouts. I like it exactly like that and I would not repaint it. $1,400, down from $1,500, for a Confente era Masi California here in town is not a crazy number if the serial holds up. If he can't produce the stamp I'd be at $800, because then you're buying a lovely old Masi rather than a lovely old Masi with two names attached to it.

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    Dark navy Specialized Diverge carbon frame and fork hanging on a workshop stand with the stem fitted and no wheels or drivetrain, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Dark navy Specialized Diverge carbon frame and fork hanging on a workshop stand with the stem fitted and no wheels or drivetrain, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 5. Dark navy Specialized Diverge carbon frame and fork hanging on a workshop stand with the stem fitted and no wheels or drivetrain, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 5. Dark navy Specialized Diverge carbon frame and fork hanging on a workshop stand with the stem fitted and no wheels or drivetrain, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 5. Dark navy Specialized Diverge carbon frame and fork hanging on a workshop stand with the stem fitted and no wheels or drivetrain, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 5 of 5.
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    FB Marketplace · Seattle, WA ·

    Specialized Diverge Expert Carbon Frameset

    Asking
    $1,000
    Size
    58cm, per the listing title and the size badge on the seat tube
    Material
    Carbon. The down tube decal reads FACT Carbon 9R
    Brakes
    Disc. Flat mount tab at the rear dropout, and the fork is sitting in a thru-axle fork mount in photo one
    Includes
    Stem and bottom bracket, per the seller. A seatpost and a Specialized collar are in the photos but he doesn't name them
    Front end
    Future Shock. The top cap is in photo five, and the seller says it's solid
    Condition
    Used, like new
    Seller
    On Facebook since 2019, 39 ratings, marked highly rated

    My take This is the one I'd move on. A Diverge Expert frameset in like new condition for $1,000, and the photos are of the actual bare frame rather than a built up bike you have to mentally strip. The reason he's selling is the good kind of boring. He parted the bike out and went to a titanium gravel frame, so there's no story to untangle about a crash or a warranty. He says it's extremely comfortable and handles well and that the Future Shock is solid, which is about what I'd expect from a 9R Diverge. FACT 9R is the good carbon in that range. It's a proper gravel frameset, not a road frame somebody is calling gravel.

    What's in the deal, and what to check He says it comes with the stem and the bottom bracket. There's also a seatpost and a Specialized seat collar sitting in the photos that he never mentions in the text, so confirm those are coming rather than assuming, same as you would with anything a seller shows but doesn't list. Disc is confirmed off the photos and not off the model name. There's a flat mount tab at the rear dropout and the fork is hanging in a thru-axle fork mount in the first shot. The Future Shock is the part I'd ask about. It's a serviceable cartridge in the head tube and it's the one thing on this frame that wears, so ask how many miles are on it and whether it's ever been apart. Five photos and none of them are of the drive side dropout, so ask for that too and for the hanger.

    What I'd pay A 58 fits a tall-ish rider, call it six foot and up, so size yourself before you get excited. $1,000 is already under what these go for and he hasn't said firm or OBO anywhere. I'd offer $850 and I'd be perfectly happy paying the grand if he doesn't budge, because like new with the stem and the bottom bracket in the box is a genuinely easy build to start from. Put a 1x AXS and some 45s on it and you'd have a very good bike.

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    Hot pink Salsa Cutthroat leaning against a wood fence, built up with drop bars, tan wall knobby tyres and a frame bag and seat pack, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Hot pink Salsa Cutthroat leaning against a wood fence, built up with drop bars, tan wall knobby tyres and a frame bag and seat pack, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 7. Hot pink Salsa Cutthroat leaning against a wood fence, built up with drop bars, tan wall knobby tyres and a frame bag and seat pack, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 7. Hot pink Salsa Cutthroat leaning against a wood fence, built up with drop bars, tan wall knobby tyres and a frame bag and seat pack, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 7. Hot pink Salsa Cutthroat leaning against a wood fence, built up with drop bars, tan wall knobby tyres and a frame bag and seat pack, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 5 of 7. Hot pink Salsa Cutthroat leaning against a wood fence, built up with drop bars, tan wall knobby tyres and a frame bag and seat pack, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 6 of 7. Hot pink Salsa Cutthroat leaning against a wood fence, built up with drop bars, tan wall knobby tyres and a frame bag and seat pack, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 7 of 7.
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    FB Marketplace · Seattle, WA ·

    Salsa Cutthroat Frameset

    Asking
    $1,300 (Seller says firm, and says no lowball offers, MSRP $2,599)
    Size
    60cm, per the listing title
    Material
    Carbon fibre
    Includes
    Frameset plus the crank, headset and Wolf Tooth bits, per the seller
    Brakes
    Disc. Front rotor and a caliper on the fork leg in photo one
    Condition
    Used, good
    Seller
    On Facebook since 2008, 16 ratings, marked highly rated

    My take The Cutthroat is the drop bar 29er Salsa built for riding the Divide, so it takes a fat knobby tyre and it has mounts all over the fork. Filed here under gravel because that's what a buyer types into the search box, but know what you're getting. It's closer to a rigid mountain bike with drops on it than to a road frame with clearance. And it's hot pink. He says he gets hoots and hollers about the colour and I believe him. He also writes about it like someone who actually rode it. Best fitting bike he's had, selling because he needs to catch up on bills and fancies going back to custom steel. That reads true, and it's the kind of listing I'd rather buy from than a two line one.

    What's actually in the deal Read the title twice. Every photo is of a complete bike with bags on it, and what's for sale is the frameset, the crank, the headset and the Wolf Tooth bits. The wheels, the tyres, the bars, the derailleur, the cassette, the bags, none of that is coming with it. Easy to look at picture one and do the sums wrong. Disc is confirmed, not assumed. Photo one has a rotor on the front hub and a caliper bolted to the fork leg. What I would nail down is which generation it is. The V1 is 142mm out back and the V2 is 148mm Boost, and that decides whether your wheels and your cranks fit it at all.

    What to check, and what I'd pay Used and good, on a carbon frame that's clearly been loaded up and ridden, so the questions write themselves. Ask whether it's ever been down, ask about the underside of the down tube where the rocks hit, and get a photo of the dropouts and the bare frame with the bags off. Nothing in these pictures worries me, but there also isn't a single shot of the frame on its own. $1,300 for a Cutthroat frame and fork with the crank and headset thrown in is a fair number and he's said firm twice, so treat it as the price rather than an opening bid. If it comes back clean I'd just pay it. The one thing I can't fix for you is that 60cm is a big frame, so this is a tall rider's find or it isn't one at all.

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    Rear triangle of a matte black S-Works Crux frame with blue speckles, a silver flat mount disc caliper bolted to the chainstay, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Rear triangle of a matte black S-Works Crux frame with blue speckles, a silver flat mount disc caliper bolted to the chainstay, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 6. Rear triangle of a matte black S-Works Crux frame with blue speckles, a silver flat mount disc caliper bolted to the chainstay, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 6. Rear triangle of a matte black S-Works Crux frame with blue speckles, a silver flat mount disc caliper bolted to the chainstay, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 6. Rear triangle of a matte black S-Works Crux frame with blue speckles, a silver flat mount disc caliper bolted to the chainstay, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 5 of 6. Rear triangle of a matte black S-Works Crux frame with blue speckles, a silver flat mount disc caliper bolted to the chainstay, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 6 of 6.
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    FB Marketplace · Wenatchee, WA ·

    S-Works Crux Frameset

    Asking
    $2,300 (was $2,500, MSRP $5,000)
    Size
    58cm. There's a 58 badge on the seat tube in the photos
    Year
    2023, per the seller
    Material
    Carbon fibre
    Includes
    Frame, fork, seatpost and stem, per the listing
    Brakes
    Disc. Flat mount caliper bolted to the chainstay in photo one
    Frame sticker
    UCI decal on the seat tube reading SPE-CRU3-CX, frame 44001
    Condition
    Used, like new

    My take S-Works Crux framesets don't come up used around here. It's the light one in Specialized's dirt drop bar line, it got raced everywhere for a few years, and the people who own them mostly keep them. This one is the speckled blue and black fade, which looks better in the seller's photos than it does in the catalogue shots. Note the UCI decal on the seat tube though. That reads CX, so this is a cyclocross frame that Marketplace and everybody else files under gravel. Same frame either way, just know what you're buying.

    Read the photos, not the vibe The ad says frame, fork, seatpost and stem and that is the whole list. The photos show it half built, so there's a SRAM crank, a chain and cassette, taped bars, and a brake caliper still hanging off the chainstay in those shots. None of that is included. Easy thing to talk yourself into when the pictures look like a bike. It's 12x100 and 12x142 like every Crux of that era, but ask whether the actual axles are in the box along with the headset, because neither one is named and you need both before this rolls anywhere.

    What to check, and what I'd pay Six photos and every single one is a close up. No shot of the whole frame, nothing of the dropouts, nothing of the underside of the down tube, which on a cross frame that's actually been raced is the first place I'd look. So ask for those and ask him straight out whether he raced it. Like new is doing some quiet work in a listing for a 2023 frame. Buuut. The carbon in those pictures is clean, he's been on here since 2016, and a real S-Works frameset with the fork and post and stem doesn't show up at this number often. Specialized's frameset is $5,000 and the discounters have it at $3,700, so $2,300 is 54% under list on a three year old frame. The going rate for something that age is 35 to 50% under, so he's already past fair before I open my mouth. He's taken $400 off since it went up too, from $2,700 down to $2,300, which tells you he wants it gone. I'd offer $2,100 and I wouldn't walk away over the difference. Two things that aren't the frame's fault: 58 is a big frame so this is a tall rider's week, and Wenatchee is a long way over the pass from here.

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    Blue-green Scott carbon frame and fork in a work stand in a garage, with a seatpost, stem and SRAM rear derailleur fitted, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Blue-green Scott carbon frame and fork in a work stand in a garage, with a seatpost, stem and SRAM rear derailleur fitted, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 6. Blue-green Scott carbon frame and fork in a work stand in a garage, with a seatpost, stem and SRAM rear derailleur fitted, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 6. Blue-green Scott carbon frame and fork in a work stand in a garage, with a seatpost, stem and SRAM rear derailleur fitted, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 6. Blue-green Scott carbon frame and fork in a work stand in a garage, with a seatpost, stem and SRAM rear derailleur fitted, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 5 of 6. Blue-green Scott carbon frame and fork in a work stand in a garage, with a seatpost, stem and SRAM rear derailleur fitted, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 6 of 6.
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    FB Marketplace · Hillsboro, OR ·

    Scott Addict Gravel 10 Frameset

    Asking
    $700 (open to reasonable offers, current model $3,000)
    Size
    M (54), 2020, per the seller
    Material
    Carbon
    Brakes
    Not stated in the listing, and I can't make out the mounts in the photos
    Tires
    38mm clearance, per the seller
    Includes
    SRAM Apex 12-speed electronic rear derailleur (battery not included), 100mm Specialized alloy stem, carbon bottle cages. The seatpost in the photos isn't listed
    Condition
    Used, good. Fender rub on the seat stay and seatpost area, repaired by Ruckus Composites per the seller. Cosmetic damage on the derailleur from a fall

    My take 2020 Addict Gravel frameset right up the road in Hillsboro, down from $800 to $700 now, and he says he's open to any reasonable offer and wants a quick sale. He's throwing in an electronic Apex 12-speed rear derailleur (no battery), the stem and a pair of carbon cages too. He says 38mm tire clearance, so think fast gravel or cross, not bikepacking.. he calls it a fantastic CX bike and I think that's the right read. Well written ad too. He even explains the yellow tape.

    Ask about the repair, the fall, and the brakes He's upfront that fender rub got into the frame and that Ruckus Composites repaired it. A pro carbon repair doesn't scare me. Buuut ask for the paperwork, and ask him to point out exactly where the work was done. Also ask what the fall was that scuffed the derailleur, because whatever hit the derailleur can hit the hanger too. And the ad never actually says disc. I'd be surprised if a 2020 gravel frame wasn't, but I can't make out a flat mount or a thru-axle in these photos, so confirm before you drive out.

    What I'd pay The current Addict Gravel frameset is $2,999.99 at retailers and he's asking $700, so about 77% under, but that's the current model against a 2020 frame with a repair, so the percentage flatters it. Still, $700 with that derailleur in the box is a good number. A repaired frame is harder to sell on later though, and he's still asking for offers, so I'd open at $600 and be happy to land around $650.

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    Black Cervélo R5 built up with drop bars and deep carbon wheels, leaning against a wall indoors, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Black Cervélo R5 built up with drop bars and deep carbon wheels, leaning against a wall indoors, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 4. Black Cervélo R5 built up with drop bars and deep carbon wheels, leaning against a wall indoors, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 4. Black Cervélo R5 built up with drop bars and deep carbon wheels, leaning against a wall indoors, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 4.
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    FB Marketplace · Portland, OR ·

    Cervélo R5 Frameset

    Asking
    $1,999 (was $2,399, MSRP $5,500)
    Size
    56cm
    Type
    Carbon disc road frameset
    Brakes
    Disc. Flat mount caliper on the rear, visible in the photos
    Includes
    Frame, fork, headset, 100mm carbon stem, 0 offset carbon seatpost
    Condition
    Used, good. Seller notes a few small nicks

    My take The R5 is Cervelo's climbing bike, the light one, and this one's in Portland with the fork, headset, stem and post thrown in. He's already knocked $400 off in under a week without anybody asking. The text of the ad still says $2400 OBO though, so ask which number he actually means before you show up.

    The photos are his build, not your frameset All four shots are the complete bike and he says so, which is fair. So the ENVE wheels and the Dura-Ace group you're looking at are not in the sale. Useful thing they do show is a Dura-Ace caliper sitting on a flat mount out back, so disc is confirmed rather than assumed. The listing never gives a year. Ask for it, and ask how much steerer is left, and go look at the nicks in daylight with a coin in your hand.

    What I'd pay I'd open at $1,700. It's a real frame at a real price, and he's clearly motivated.. But the stem and zero offset post are his fit, not yours, so don't count them as value until we've sized you. And if you're not a 56, that's the whole conversation.

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    Kona Rove LTD frameset in turquoise with its carbon fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Kona Rove LTD frameset in turquoise with its carbon fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 5. Kona Rove LTD frameset in turquoise with its carbon fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 5. Kona Rove LTD frameset in turquoise with its carbon fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 5. Kona Rove LTD frameset in turquoise with its carbon fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 5 of 5.
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    FB Marketplace · Portland, OR ·

    Kona Rove LTD

    Asking
    $650 (was $700, MSRP $1,499)
    Size
    56, 2018
    Material
    Reynolds 853 steel, carbon fork
    Steerer
    Uncut
    Includes
    Espresso Wolf Tooth Premium headset, seat collar and cage bolts, stock thru-axles
    Tires
    Seller ran 650b x 48
    Condition
    Used, good

    My take Reynolds 853 with a carbon fork, an uncut steerer, and a Wolf Tooth headset and collar already fitted, for $650 now that he's come down from $800 in two steps, right here in town. Then read the listing. He gives you his height and his inseam, tells you he landed on a 70mm stem and wanted a zero setback post, says he ran 650x48 through Forest Park and the fire lanes, and says why he's moving on. Nobody writes that unless they actually rode the thing.

    Read the stem as a warning He's 5'11" with a 32 inch inseam and says the 56 fit him well but was a hair large, which is what that 70mm stem is doing there. That's fit information, not trivia. If you're around his size expect to run short up front too, and if you're smaller than him this frame is never going to come back to you.

    What I'd build Zoom the frame shots on the listing and you can see a flat mount tab on the chainstay with a thru-axle sitting in the dropout, so brakes and wheels are all current parts rather than a scavenger hunt. Put road tires on it and it's a fast steel road bike, put the 650b knobbies back on and it's the gravel bike he was riding. New it was $1,499 as a frameset back in 2018, and he's now asking 57% under that. I'd pay the $650 and not argue at all.

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    Yellow Bridgestone track frame with a polished silver rear triangle propped on a pavement beside its matching silver fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Yellow Bridgestone track frame with a polished silver rear triangle propped on a pavement beside its matching silver fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 5. Yellow Bridgestone track frame with a polished silver rear triangle propped on a pavement beside its matching silver fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 5. Yellow Bridgestone track frame with a polished silver rear triangle propped on a pavement beside its matching silver fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 5. Yellow Bridgestone track frame with a polished silver rear triangle propped on a pavement beside its matching silver fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 5 of 5.
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    FB Marketplace · Portland, OR

    Bridgestone Keirin Track Frame

    Asking
    $900 (was $1,400)
    Size
    60cm, per the seller. No top tube length given
    Material
    Triple butted steel, per the seller. Columbus tubing decal on the seat tube
    Fork
    Matching Bridgestone, 1 inch threaded
    Headset
    Hatta Swan Super Deluxe, stamped Japan
    Brakes
    None. No hole in the fork crown, no brake bridge
    Type
    Track / fixed gear
    Includes
    Frame, fork, headset, bottom bracket
    Condition
    Used, like new

    My take Keirin frames are a whole thing and I am not immune. Imported from Japan, triple butted steel, rear facing track dropouts with the chain adjuster tabs cast right into them, and the fork is the matching Bridgestone one rather than something bolted on later. The fourth photo is the top of the headset and it's stamped Hatta Swan Super Deluxe, Japan, so that part of the listing you don't have to take on faith. There's an EAI Bareknuckle on this page at $400 and I stand by that card, but this is a different conversation.

    About the NJS in the title He calls it NJS. Buuut the sticker on the seat tube is a Columbus tubing decal, and Columbus was never on the NJS approved tubing list as far as I know, so those two claims don't really sit together. Which could be completely fine! Bridgestone built plenty of track frames that were never keirin legal and they're still lovely things. So.. ask him to photograph the frame number and whatever stamps are on the bottom bracket shell and the dropouts before you drive anywhere.

    The size, the brakes, and what I'd pay There are no brake mounts at all. Fork crown isn't drilled and there's nothing between the seat stays. That's normal for this kind of frame and it's exactly why the disc rule on this page skips track bikes, since the braking goes through the drivetrain. Just go in knowing it if you wanted a front caliper for riding around town. Bigger catch is that it's a 60 and keirin geometry is its own animal, so the seat tube number tells you almost nothing. He never gives a top tube length and that's the measurement that decides whether this fits you. Get it first. Then: it's down from $1,400, it's here in town, and Marketplace isn't showing how long it's been up. If the frame number comes back keirin I'd pay the $900. If it doesn't, I'd be at $650, because then you're buying a nice old Bridgestone and a Hatta headset instead of a piece of racing.

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    Off-white Specialized Tarmac SL7 frame laid on a dark table with its fork and carbon seatpost alongside, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Off-white Specialized Tarmac SL7 frame laid on a dark table with its fork and carbon seatpost alongside, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 7. Off-white Specialized Tarmac SL7 frame laid on a dark table with its fork and carbon seatpost alongside, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 7. Off-white Specialized Tarmac SL7 frame laid on a dark table with its fork and carbon seatpost alongside, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 7. Off-white Specialized Tarmac SL7 frame laid on a dark table with its fork and carbon seatpost alongside, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 5 of 7. Off-white Specialized Tarmac SL7 frame laid on a dark table with its fork and carbon seatpost alongside, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 6 of 7. Off-white Specialized Tarmac SL7 frame laid on a dark table with its fork and carbon seatpost alongside, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 7 of 7.
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    FB Marketplace · Seattle, WA

    Specialized Tarmac SL7

    Asking
    $1,200 (was $1,475)
    Size
    56, per the seller. No top tube length given
    Year
    2022, per the seller
    Material
    Carbon. The listing never says which SL7 tier
    Brakes
    Disc. Two flat mount tabs by the rear dropout and thru axles front and rear, visible in the photos
    Fork
    Included, photographed on its own
    Includes
    Frame, fork, hardware, the internal cable tubing, and a 100mm S-Works stem he says isn't pictured
    Condition
    Used, good. One crash ding on the rear triangle, chipped and touched up

    My take A 2022 SL7 in a 56 for twelve hundred is the kind of number that makes you open the listing twice. Disc, thru axle both ends, flat mount tabs right there by the dropout, so the current groupsets are all on the table instead of you hunting eleven speed on eBay. Fork is there and photographed on its own. The seller says he works in a shop, cleaned and maintained it regularly, and checked the derailleur hanger, and the listing reads like someone who actually does that. He also put the crash damage in the third line rather than the last one, which counts for a lot with me.

    About that ding He says one ding from a crit, paint chipped, and that a carbon expert confirmed no structural damage. I cropped into the rear triangle photo and I count two separate patches of matte filler, not one. The big one wraps the corner right at the drive side dropout and there's a smaller one a few inches along the stay below it. Neither is hidden, they're just obvious against the gloss, and I'd rather see them than not. Buuut "a carbon expert" is carrying a lot of weight in that sentence. Ask who, ask whether anyone tapped it or scanned it or just looked at it, and if the answer is looked at it, get a real inspection before money moves. A corner that close to a dropout is not where you want to find out later.

    Two things he doesn't say, and what I'd pay He never says which SL7 it is, and there's a real spread between S-Works and the tiers under it on layup and weight. There's a sticker visible in that rear triangle shot.. get him to photograph it. Second one: a carbon seatpost is in four of the photos and he never once lists it as included. That post is Tarmac specific and not cheap, so pin it down before you drive to Seattle rather than after. If the ding checks out and the post is in the deal, $1,200 is a good buy and I'd tell you to go. If nobody will put eyes on that dropout for you, I'd be at $900 and I'd tell him exactly why.

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    Silver OPEN MIN.D carbon frameset standing on a dining table with its fork, an ENVE stem and a seatpost topper fitted, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Silver OPEN MIN.D carbon frameset standing on a dining table with its fork, an ENVE stem and a seatpost topper fitted, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 9. Silver OPEN MIN.D carbon frameset standing on a dining table with its fork, an ENVE stem and a seatpost topper fitted, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 9. Silver OPEN MIN.D carbon frameset standing on a dining table with its fork, an ENVE stem and a seatpost topper fitted, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 9. Silver OPEN MIN.D carbon frameset standing on a dining table with its fork, an ENVE stem and a seatpost topper fitted, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 5 of 9. Silver OPEN MIN.D carbon frameset standing on a dining table with its fork, an ENVE stem and a seatpost topper fitted, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 6 of 9. Silver OPEN MIN.D carbon frameset standing on a dining table with its fork, an ENVE stem and a seatpost topper fitted, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 7 of 9. Silver OPEN MIN.D carbon frameset standing on a dining table with its fork, an ENVE stem and a seatpost topper fitted, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 8 of 9. Silver OPEN MIN.D carbon frameset standing on a dining table with its fork, an ENVE stem and a seatpost topper fitted, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 9 of 9.
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    FB Marketplace · Puyallup, WA

    OPEN MIN.D

    Asking
    $1,400 (seller says firm, MSRP $2,900)
    Size
    Large, 56cm
    Year
    2021
    Type
    Carbon disc road frameset, integrated seat mast
    Brakes
    Flat mount, 160mm front and rear with no adapters
    Tires
    Up to 32c, per the seller
    Includes
    CeramicSpeed DUB bottom bracket, ENVE 100mm stem, Ritchey topper, Carbon-Ti thru-axles
    Finish
    Custom silver repaint, seller says Black Magic of Portland did it

    My take OPEN is a tiny operation and you basically never see one of these come up used around here. At $1,400 you are also buying an ENVE stem, a CeramicSpeed bottom bracket and a set of Carbon-Ti thru-axles that are already in it. Nine photos and he shot the things that actually matter: the bottom bracket shell, both dropouts with the axles in, and the rear derailleur hanger. Flat mount holes are right there on the chainstay and the fork blade, so I'm not guessing at the brakes on this one.

    The seat mast is the whole conversation This frame has an integrated mast rather than a seatpost, and it has already been cut for a 5'9" rider. To his credit he tells you exactly what that leaves you: 730mm to 765mm from the bottom bracket to the top of the saddle, with the Ritchey topper doing the adjusting. Go measure your own saddle height before you message him. If your number is above 765 this frame is done, and no part you can buy brings it back. The ENVE on this page has a cut steerer and that's the same problem in a smaller size.

    What I'd check, and what I'd pay Two things. The bottom bracket shell is press fit, PF46, with a CeramicSpeed cup already pressed in, so ask whether it has ever creaked and know that press fit is a different afternoon than a threaded shell. And the listing says condition New while also saying the mast is cut and the paint is a respray, which can't both be the whole story, so ask what it actually did before he sold it. Price says firm and just lowered, and Marketplace isn't showing how long it's been up. If the saddle height lines up I'd pay the $1,400 and not haggle at a number that just moved.

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    Kinesis Tripster ATR titanium bike, photographed built up indoors, from the seller's Marketplace listing.

    FB Marketplace · Seattle, WA ·

    Kinesis Tripster ATR V2

    Asking
    $1,600 (frame and fork, current model £2,400)
    Size
    51, and the seller says it measures closer to a 54 elsewhere
    Material
    Titanium frame, ENVE fork
    Tires
    Up to 45mm, per the seller
    Routing
    Internal
    Condition
    Used, good

    My take Titanium with an ENVE fork on the front, and a seller who has clearly done this before. He put every component in a table with its own price, tells you to go pull the geometry rather than trust the number on the seat tube, and gives you a build weight and the wheels it came from. That's the kind of person you want on the other end of a Marketplace message.

    The photo is a whole bike Say this part out loud because the picture doesn't. The $1,600 buys the frame and the ENVE fork. Wheels, groupset, cranks, bars, brakes, tires and fenders are all separate line items further down his list, and the everything price is $3,530.

    What I'd pay $1,600 is a fair number for ti plus that fork rather than a steal, so I'd open at $1,350 and see. It's been up about six weeks now with no price change, so he may be readier to talk than he was. If you do end up talking, the Berd wheelset at $1,100 is worth its own conversation.

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    Green Specialized Aethos frameset leaning against a fence with its fork, seatpost and saddle fitted, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Green Specialized Aethos frameset leaning against a fence with its fork, seatpost and saddle fitted, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 4. Green Specialized Aethos frameset leaning against a fence with its fork, seatpost and saddle fitted, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 4. Green Specialized Aethos frameset leaning against a fence with its fork, seatpost and saddle fitted, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 4.
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    FB Marketplace · Seattle, WA ·

    Specialized Aethos Expert Frameset

    Asking
    $2,000 (current model $3,499)
    Size
    58cm
    Year
    2022, per the seller
    Type
    Carbon disc road frameset
    Includes
    Bottom bracket, Roval carbon bars, seatpost, saddle
    Condition
    Used, good. Seller notes a few scratches

    My take Plenty of used Aethos listings never say which tier they are, and it matters, because the layup and the weight change a lot between them. This one says Expert right in the title. Round tubes, no aero nonsense, one of my favorite things Specialized has ever made. The photos also show the bars sitting in a normal separate stem rather than a one-piece cockpit, which means the fit is a stem swap rather than a new front end.

    Two of the four photos are close-ups Head tube and fork blade, which is him telling you where the marks are. Good. But a scratch on carbon is a look-at-it-in-person job, not a haggle-over-text job. Go stand in daylight with it, tap around the marks with a coin, and while you're there ask how much steerer is left, because the listing doesn't say and you can't put it back.

    What I'd pay He opens with "testing the waters here, not totally sure I'm willing to part with this frame", which usually means he isn't going far under his number yet. It's been up about four weeks now, still at $2,000. I'd offer $1,750 and be pleasant about a no. A 58 fits fewer people than a 54 does, so if he's still there in a month the conversation gets easier.

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  • I'd pass
    Mustard yellow Canyon Grizl carbon frameset leaning against a wooden fence with its fork, stem and seatpost alongside, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Mustard yellow Canyon Grizl carbon frameset leaning against a wooden fence with its fork, stem and seatpost alongside, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 5. Mustard yellow Canyon Grizl carbon frameset leaning against a wooden fence with its fork, stem and seatpost alongside, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 5. Mustard yellow Canyon Grizl carbon frameset leaning against a wooden fence with its fork, stem and seatpost alongside, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 5. Mustard yellow Canyon Grizl carbon frameset leaning against a wooden fence with its fork, stem and seatpost alongside, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 5 of 5.
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    FB Marketplace · Seattle, WA ·

    Canyon Grizl CF SL 7 Frameset

    Asking
    $400
    Size
    Large
    Year
    2022, and the seller says he isn't sure
    Type
    Carbon disc gravel frameset
    Includes
    Bottom bracket, stem, seatpost, per the seller. The fork is in the photos
    Condition
    Used, fair. Seller flags a possible crack on the right seat stay

    My take Four hundred bucks for a Grizl CF frameset stops you scrolling, and then you get to the second half of the listing. Paint scratch on the right seat stay, maybe a crack, never professionally looked at, and he's put a thousand miles on it since he noticed. Then he tells you to come by and do the coin test yourself. That's about as straight as anyone on Marketplace plays it, and he's priced it like someone who knows exactly what he's selling. One thing his text leaves out is the fork. He lists the bottom bracket, stem and seatpost and never mentions it, and it's sitting right there in two photos, so pin that down before you drive north.

    The line in the close-ups Two of the five photos are shot tight on the mark and what I don't love is the direction it runs. It goes across the tube rather than along it. A scrape off a rock or somebody's bar end usually travels the length of a tube instead. Could still be paint and nothing more. I'm not calling it from a phone photo and you shouldn't either. Ask him to reshoot with a finger next to it, because those close-ups are cropped tight enough that it's hard to tell which tube you're looking at. Disc is confirmed rather than assumed off the model name, by the way.. there's a thru axle sitting in the fork dropouts in the second photo.

    Why it's a pass This is where my own garage and the business part ways. I'm not putting a customer's build on a frame with an open question in the rear triangle, however cheap the frame was, because that's a phone call I don't want to make next summer. For your own bike the math flips completely. Ruckus is right here in Portland and they'll actually scan carbon rather than squint at it, so it's $400 plus whatever the inspection runs and then you know. I'd offer $325 and I'd stand in front of it before I agreed to anything.

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    Brushed titanium Mosaic road frameset laid out on cardboard next to its purple carbon fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Brushed titanium Mosaic road frameset laid out on cardboard next to its purple carbon fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 8. Brushed titanium Mosaic road frameset laid out on cardboard next to its purple carbon fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 8. Brushed titanium Mosaic road frameset laid out on cardboard next to its purple carbon fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 8. Brushed titanium Mosaic road frameset laid out on cardboard next to its purple carbon fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 5 of 8. Brushed titanium Mosaic road frameset laid out on cardboard next to its purple carbon fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 6 of 8. Brushed titanium Mosaic road frameset laid out on cardboard next to its purple carbon fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 7 of 8. Brushed titanium Mosaic road frameset laid out on cardboard next to its purple carbon fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 8 of 8.
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    FB Marketplace · Portland, OR ·

    Mosaic RT-1D Custom Titanium

    Asking
    $3,500 (was $4,200)
    Size
    Seller says it fits like a 48. 46cm seat tube, top to centre
    Material
    Custom titanium frame, ENVE carbon fork
    Includes
    Chris King headset, ENVE 90mm stem, ENVE seatpost
    Brakes
    Disc. Flat mount tab on the chainstay, thru-axles both ends
    Routing
    Internal
    Condition
    Used, like new

    My take Mosaic build these one at a time in Colorado and you basically never see one turn up used around here. Brushed titanium, ENVE fork in a purple that I like a lot more than I expected to, Chris King headset, ENVE stem and post already on it. The photos are the good kind too. He laid a tape measure along the seat tube and along the top tube and photographed both, which on a custom frame is worth more than any size sticker.

    Custom means it was cut for somebody else This is the whole conversation on this one. A stock 48 you can look up. This one is whatever the first owner ordered, so those two tape measure photos are the spec sheet and there isn't another one. Bring your own numbers, measure the thing yourself before money moves, and if it doesn't line up then walk, because no stem fixes a frame built to a different body.

    What I'd pay Up since July and he has taken $700 off, so it's $3,500 now. That's under the $3,600 I said I'd open at when this card went up, so.. I'll just say it. The number is right. The fork, the headset, the stem and the post are real money sitting there before you count the frame at all. Still the most expensive thing on this page by a distance, and I'd still rather build this than another carbon superbike.

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  • I'd pass
    All-City Macho Man Disc frameset in black iridescent paint, from the seller's Marketplace listing. All-City Macho Man Disc frameset in black iridescent paint, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 8. All-City Macho Man Disc frameset in black iridescent paint, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 8. All-City Macho Man Disc frameset in black iridescent paint, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 8. All-City Macho Man Disc frameset in black iridescent paint, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 5 of 8. All-City Macho Man Disc frameset in black iridescent paint, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 6 of 8. All-City Macho Man Disc frameset in black iridescent paint, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 7 of 8. All-City Macho Man Disc frameset in black iridescent paint, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 8 of 8.
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    FB Marketplace · Seattle, WA ·

    All-City Macho Man Disc

    Asking
    $799 (was $900, MSRP $649)
    Size
    58cm
    Material
    Steel, black iridescent
    Fork
    Ritchey carbon, uncut ($650 new)
    Headset
    Chris King NoThreadset ($150 new)
    Tires
    45c on 700c, seller measured. 38c with fenders
    Standards
    135mm QR rear, 100x12 thru-axle fork, 68mm English BB

    My take This is the most useful listing I've read in a while. The seller measured actual tire clearance instead of repeating the brochure number, tells you the rear is 135mm quick release, and mentions he has the flat mount adapter if you need it. That's someone who knows the frame. Between an uncut Ritchey carbon fork and a Chris King headset you're most of the way to the asking price in parts alone.

    A dead-brand All-City All-City is winding down, so what's out there is what's left. Steel, straightforward, everything replaceable, and it takes a 45c tire without fenders which makes it a genuinely wide-range all-road bike rather than just a cross frame.

    The one dated bit 135mm quick release out back rather than a thru-axle. Not a problem, but it narrows your wheel options a little and it's the giveaway that this frame is a few years old. Worth knowing before you go shopping for hubs.

    Why it's a pass, and what I'd offer Here's the number that matters. The newest MSRP I can find for this frameset is $649, for 2019, and he's asking $799 for a used one. He doesn't say what year it is, and later ones may well have cost a bit more, but I can't find a year where it cost $799. The Ritchey carbon fork and the Chris King headset he's put on it are real money and they're the reason it's worth a message at all.. but that's still more than new for a frame from a brand that's winding down. I'd offer $600 and walk if he won't get near it.

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    EAI Bareknuckle track frame with a Ritchey carbon fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. EAI Bareknuckle track frame with a Ritchey carbon fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 6. EAI Bareknuckle track frame with a Ritchey carbon fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 6. EAI Bareknuckle track frame with a Ritchey carbon fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 4 of 6. EAI Bareknuckle track frame with a Ritchey carbon fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 5 of 6. EAI Bareknuckle track frame with a Ritchey carbon fork, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 6 of 6.
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    FB Marketplace · Salem, OR ·

    EAI Bareknuckle

    Asking
    $400 (obo, MSRP $700)
    Size
    54cm seat tube, 55cm top tube (c-t-c)
    Material
    Deda 01 steel
    Fork
    Ritchey full carbon
    Type
    Track / fixed gear
    Condition
    Used, good. Paint could use buffing

    My take The Bareknuckle is a proper track frame and people are rightly fond of them. Deda 01 tubing so it's light for steel, and $400 with a Ritchey carbon fork is not much money for either of those things, let alone both. It's been up since August and it's listed obo, so there's room.

    Know what this is Track geometry. Fixed or singlespeed, and I'd confirm what brake mounting exists front and rear before committing, because track frames often have none. This is a joyful thing to ride and it is absolutely not a do-everything bike. Go in wanting that.

    About the fork A non-original fork would worry me on a carbon superbike, where the fork is matched to the frame and you want its whole history. Here it doesn't bother me at all. Steel frame, straightforward parts, nothing hiding under paint. Same fact, totally different weight depending on what it's bolted to.

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    ENVE Melee carbon frameset in Damascus Gray, from the seller's Marketplace listing. ENVE Melee carbon frameset in Damascus Gray, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 2 of 3. ENVE Melee carbon frameset in Damascus Gray, from the seller's Marketplace listing. Photo 3 of 3.
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    FB Marketplace · Seattle, WA ·

    ENVE Melee

    Asking
    $2,200 (was $2,400, MSRP $4,800)
    Size
    54cm, 551mm stack / 387mm reach
    Finish
    Damascus Gray
    Includes
    Frame, ENVE fork, ENVE carbon post, headset, rear thru-axle, small frame hardware
    Steerer
    Cut, fits 30mm of spacers
    Condition
    Used, good. RideWrap on wear areas

    My take Roughly half of what a Melee frameset costs new, and it's the nicest frame on this page by a distance. The seller lists stack and reach instead of just a size, says no crashes, and put RideWrap on the wear areas before selling it. All of that reads like someone who took care of the thing. He pulled the old ad and put it back up at $2,200, down from $2,400, so he's moving.

    Check the fit first The steerer is cut and takes 30mm of spacers. That's the whole conversation on this one. If your position is already low it's fine, if you need height you cannot get it back and no amount of stem angle fixes it. Bring me your current stack and reach before you buy this, not after.

    What I'd build $2,200 for the frame and then the group is the whole decision. Ultegra Di2 is the value play.. the 12 speed disc group has been turning up around $1,200 at the UK shops against $2,700 list, closer to $2,000 stateside, and it shifts as well as Dura-Ace did two generations ago. Dura-Ace or Red is roughly double whatever Ultegra costs that week. Wheels run $1,000 for good carbon up to $2,500 if you want the name on the rim, plus $499 to build it. So an Ultegra bike on $1,000 wheels is about $4,900 all in, and better wheels or Dura-Ace add a thousand or two on top. Check the duty before you count on a UK price.

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